NVIDIA Delays GeForce RTX 3070 Launch to October 29thby Ryan Smith on October 2, 2020 3:30 PM EST
In a brief news post made to their GeForce website last night, NVIDIA has announced that they have delayed the launch of the upcoming GeForce RTX 3070 video card. The high-end video card, which was set to launch on October 15th for $499, has been pushed back by two weeks. It will now be launching on October 29th.
Indirectly referencing the launch-day availability concerns for the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 last month, NVIDIA is citing a desire to have “more cards available on launch day” for the delay. NVIDIA does not disclose their launch supply numbers, so it’s not clear just how many more cards another two weeks’ worth of stockpiling will net them – it likely still won’t be enough to meet all demand – but it should at least improve the odds.
|NVIDIA GeForce Specification Comparison|
|RTX 3070||RTX 3080||RTX 3090||RTX 2070|
|Memory Clock||14Gbps GDDR6||19Gbps GDDR6X||19.5Gbps GDDR6X||14Gbps GDDR6|
|Memory Bus Width||256-bit||320-bit||384-bit||256-bit|
|Single Precision Perf.||20.4 TFLOPs||29.8 TFLOPs||35.7 TFLOPs||7.5 TFLOPs|
|Tensor Perf. (FP16)||81.3 TFLOPs||119 TFLOPs||143 TFLOPs||59.8 TFLOPs|
|Tensor Perf. (FP16-Sparse)||163 TFLOPs||238 TFLOPs||285 TFLOPs||59.8 TFLOPs|
|Manufacturing Process||Samsung 8nm||Samsung 8nm||Samsung 8nm||TSMC 12nm "FFN"|
|Launch Price||MSRP: $499||MSRP: $699||MSRP: $1499||MSRP: $499
Interestingly, this delay also means that the RTX 3070 will now launch after AMD’s planned Radeon product briefing, which is scheduled for October 28th. NVIDIA has already shown their hand with respect to specifications and pricing, so the 3070’s price and performance are presumably locked in. But this does give NVIDIA one last chance to react – or at least, distract – should they need it.
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raywin - Friday, October 2, 2020 - linkso it's amazing right, apple manages to fill the channel for millions of iPhones, but nvidia pawns you off on their aib shortcutters for more than their retail launch price of the og card. wth is going on with that company, i can't even back order an FE card.
MrSpadge - Saturday, October 3, 2020 - linkTo be fair, Apple iPhone SOCs are typically around 100 mm², whereas GA102 is 628 mm². This yields approximately 600 dies per wafer for Apple and 89 for nVidia. This factor of 7 is not enough to get from millions to 10 thousands, but it certainly makes it more difficult to get enough chips from the foundry. We also don't know how well Samsung works for nVidia as foundry.
Spunjji - Monday, October 5, 2020 - linkIt's not the AIBs that were at fault. Nvidia pushed for an early launch and didn't allow them enough time for testing, so all they could do was follow Nvidia's instructions.
In other words all roads lead back to Nvidia. As per usual, they're not exactly rushing to take the bullet for their own mistakes.
raywin - Sunday, October 11, 2020 - linki think that is fair, unprecedented demand may work for one launch, but 2 in a row. this time it is a supply issue
Wreckage - Friday, October 2, 2020 - linkWhy release the 3070 when they are selling every 3080 they can make. Especially when it sounds like AMD won't have anything compelling.
MrVibrato - Friday, October 2, 2020 - linkNot everyone who eyes an 3070 will buy a 3080 if the 3070 is not (yet) available. And not everyone who looks forward to buying a 3080 will suddenly switch to purchasing a 3070 if the 3070 becomes available.
Also, manufacturing costs vs. sales volume / revenue: The GA104 die is substantially smaller than GA102 (392 mm2 vs. 628 mm2, or so). Given that both are produced with the same process in the same fab, one can assume the same wafer size and the same defect rate per area unit for both GPUs. As such, for the same manufacuring costs per wafer (which stays the same regardless of how many GA102 and/or GA104 are on the waver) you produce a lot more dies. It could be that the profit/revenue per wafer is favouring the more expensive GA102, but it could very well also be possible that the profit/revenue per wafer calculation is favourable for the GA104 when compared against the GA102. I suggest you get a job at Nvidia, work your way up the hierarchy, and in no time you will know how much exactly Nvidia makes with each their GPU dies...
raywin - Friday, October 2, 2020 - linkbecause they never intended to sell the 3080 FE to consumers, they intended to push you off to aib vendors and then push out a newer better++ version
Meteor2 - Saturday, October 3, 2020 - linkYield, of course.
schujj07 - Saturday, October 3, 2020 - linkThe 3070 is based on the same die as the 3080 just with parts disabled. Early in a product or manufacturing process these disabled parts are generally failures. You then take the failed 3080s and they become the 3070. It is a way to increase yields of what was made.
How do you know that AMD won't have anything compelling?
haukionkannel - Saturday, October 3, 2020 - link3080 use 102
3070 use 104... So how same die?