Earlier in the year we were able to cover Qualcomm's announcement of the Snapdragon 618 and 620 mid-range SoCs. We haven't heard much about the SoCs since the original news, but today Qualcomm made the new announcement that there will be a product renaming. From now on, the Snapdragon 618 becomes the Snapdragon 650 and the Snapdragon 620 becomes the new Snapdragon 652. It seems that Qualcomm saw possibility of product lineup confusion between the existing Snapdragon 61x models and the new parts, and because the new models represent a significant boost in performance to previous generation A53-only SoCs, repositioned the parts with new higher numeric names that allows them to better differentiate themselves.

Qualcomm 2016 Mid- to High-End
SoC Snapdragon 650
Snapdragon 652
Snapdragon 820
CPU 4x Cortex A53 @1440MHz

2x Cortex A72 @1804MHz
4x Cortex A53 @1440MHz

4x Cortex A72 @1804MHz
2x Kryo @1598MHz

2x Kryo @2150MHz
Memory 2x 32-bit @ 931MHz

14.9GB/s b/w
2x 32-bit @ 1803MHz

28.8GB/s b/w
GPU Adreno 510
@ 550MHz
Adreno 530
@ 624MHz
2160p30, 1080p90
H.264 & HEVC
2160p30 (p60 decode),
H.264 & HEVC
Camera/ISP Dual ISP
Dual ISP
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7
300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL

2x20MHz C.A. 
(DL & UL)
"X12 LTE" Cat. 12/13 
600Mbps DL 150Mbps UL

3x20MHz C.A. (DL)
2x20MHz C.A. (UL)
Mfc. Process 28nm HPm 14nm LPP

As a reminder, the Snapdragon 650 and 652 are big.LITTLE SoCs based on ARM's Cortex A72 acting as the big cores running at 1804MHz, and along with them comes ARM's Cortex A53 clocked at 1440MHz. While both SoCs have 4 little cores, the Snapdragon 652 sports 4 A72 cores while the smaller brother sports only 2.

As a GPU we find an Adreno 510 clocked in at 550MHz. We still don't have much more information on how this new part will be able to perform compared to its predecessors, but we should be expecting levels along the line of the Adreno 418 in the current Snapdragon 808.

The biggest difference between the Snapdragon 650/652 and the high end flagship, the Snapdragon 820 will be in terms of manufacturing node as we'll be seeing the former parts made on a mature 28nm HPm node while the Snapdragon 820 enjoys the more high-end 14nm LPP manufacturing process. 

At the time we expected the new parts to ship in devices by the end of the year but as we're closing in on the holiday season it looks like we'll have to wait for early 2016 until we can get our hands on the new products, so hopefully we'll be seeing announcements in the following months with availability shortly after.

Source: Qualcomm

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  • tipoo - Thursday, December 17, 2015 - link

    "That's not what I meant by we have to raise the numbers!"
    -exec to his engineers
  • jjj - Thursday, December 17, 2015 - link

    hehe the biggest difference will be the price. No idea how big these are but size, process and yield should result in 2-3 times lower costs. We'll see how much pricing pressure X20 applies on these, with some luck Moto G type of devices could use em.
    As for devices, CES is less than 3 weeks away and at least 4 devices with the 65X showed up in benchmarks so far , so CES it is.
  • extide - Thursday, December 17, 2015 - link

    Hopefully these are used on a lot of mid/low range devices -- these will definitely provide a significant bump in performance to current SD6xx parts!
  • zeeBomb - Thursday, December 17, 2015 - link

    I feel like it should have been called 648/650 respectively...like I can see a manufacturer get more 650s than the 652. At least we know the A9 will have it...and it does make the naming a lot more clearer.
  • haukionkannel - Friday, December 18, 2015 - link

    It would be interesting to see these to compared to 810 and 808. They seems to be mostly identical...
  • Olaf van der Spek - Friday, December 18, 2015 - link

    Is 1080p90 a typo?

    At http://www.anandtech.com/show/9184/arm-reveals-cor... the A72 was supposed to be at 14/16nm, what went wrong?
  • Mobile-Dom - Friday, December 18, 2015 - link

    the A72 was made to be made on anything from 28nm to 14nm and all inbetween, A72s on 28nm provide power at much lower cost.

    tohugh i really wish they'd nixed the 28nm HPM and gone with the 22nm GloFo FD-SOI
  • invinciblegod - Friday, December 18, 2015 - link

    Wow, I didn't know that they released so many models that they are now in the hundred thousand range!
  • Gunbuster - Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - link

    No matter what the performance we have Microsoft to gobble up any sub-optimal leftover Qualcomm chips for Lumia's as Windows 10 Mobile limps along.
  • p51d007 - Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - link

    For my usage, no games, but pretty much everything else, this would be a good upgrade to the SD400 in my phone now. If I could find a 6" with one of these chips, with around a 4,000mAH battery, to match what I have now, that also has the USA LTE frequencies, for around $400, I might buy one. Otherwise, I'll just keep my Mate2. EXCELLENT value for the money.

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