Conclusion

When we review the mainstream level for computing, $70 on just the motherboard gets a relatively bare product but you are still investing in an ecosystem around the market involving the software, BIOS and additional unique functionality. When you spend $69 on a motherboard/SoC combination, where the SoC has a tray price of $72, the purchase becomes more of a utility. At this price point it becomes almost impossible for motherboard manufacturers to separate their product, because it is solely purchased for the IO that comes part of the chipset.

With that in mind, the J1800N-D2H does offer a couple of SATA 3 Gbps ports, a USB 3.0 port, Realtek networking and an ALC887 audio codec. For good measure there is a mini-PCIe for an additional module, and a PCIe 2.0 x1 slot. Compared to the big motherboards we often review, this sounds like the bare minimum for any desktop system, but it does allow the user to implement WiFi, a sound card, two SSDs in storage and a base HTPC card if required.

Speaking solely about the motherboard, our system tests showed no new records and the level you might expect with such a low cost system. The BIOS used the old style blue on grey without a hint of a graphical UEFI on GIGABYTE's more mainstream products or of the type that we saw on the J1900I-C, perhaps to the detriment of the user experience.

When we compare dual core Bay Trail-D parts with the HP Stream 11, an 11-inch low cost Windows laptop, the strength of the desktop route is upgradeability and potential maximum performance. Our synthetic tests showed that in terms of pure horse power, the J1800 was slightly ahead of the N2840 for example, or that some benchmarks mattered more on the OS/software version than the similar hardware underneath). In exchange for the mobility and a slightly lower price of the HP with everything considered, the J1800N-D2H when paired with the right bundle will offer more faster storage, and perhaps with an 802.11ac card better signal strength, although as shown below, it cannot compete in terms of pricing unless you go super bargain basement. Perhaps the main benefit the HP Stream 11 offers is the ability to 'purchase and play' compared to a self-build desktop, but a system integrator might be able to provide that same purchase and play experience.

J1800 for $200
Part Component Price
CPU and Motherboard GIGABYTE J1800N-D2H $69
DRAM G.Skill 1x2GB DDR3-1333 C9 $19
WiFi Card Intel 802.11n 7260 2T2R, OEM $16
Storage Refurbished Corsair Nova 2 60GB $30
Case and PSU Logisys CS305BK ATX Mid-Tower + 450W $30
Monitor Used ViewSonic 17" Q7b (inc shipping) $36
Mouse and Keyboard Logitech MK120 Combo $15
Total   $215

When we price up a system with the J1800N-D2H trying to hit the $200 price point, even when selecting used or refurbished goods, it is very difficult to even hit $200, let alone with something half decent.

J1800 Recommended when Buying New
Part Component Price
CPU and Motherboard GIGABYTE J1800N-D2H $69
DRAM G.Skill 2x2GB DDR3-1333 C9 $38
WiFi Card Intel 802.11ac 7260 2T2R, OEM $35
Storage Crucial MX100 128GB $61
Case and PSU Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK mini-ITX with 250W $45
Monitor Dell 19.5" 1920x1080 D2015H $80
Mouse and Keyboard Logitech MK120 Combo $15
Total   $343

When we put a list of solely new items, using a small SSD (either $48 for 64GB or $61 for 128GB), some DRAM (dual channel for peak performance) and a decent WiFi module, it is clear that the $200 price point of the HP Stream 11 is hard to beat in desktop form. Particular culprits for the desktop cost include the monitor, and this price is not even counting an operating system.  Using a base 1366x768 TN panel, eMMC, a system builder's OS and a single stream WiFi solution helps HP drive that price down, and one would imagine that HP's overall margin in the product is lower than the expected margins for our system. The benefit of a system builder such as HP is that it is possible to buy into their ecosystem, or they might be able to build a stepping stone to their more expensive products in the future if the user has a good experience.
 

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  • jbltecnicspro - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - link

    Good article, but I really would have appreciated if you could compare this CPU to a Celeron 1037u. I have a feeling that with its Ivy Bridge architecture though, that it would probably wipe the floor with this new CPU.
  • bill.rookard - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - link

    You'd be right on the dual core version. Compared against the little quad core version, the quad does significantly better. I have to say that I wouldn't consider the dual core for any purchase, but I do have the quad in my htpc. The quad has slower single thread performance, but the total score (geekbench) using all cores matches the 1037u.
  • jbltecnicspro - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - link

    Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I have to wonder though, when I see a 1037u + motherboard system for sale for like $4 extra dollars, what's Intel's point in releasing this? I suppose eventually when the supply for the 1037u dries up, all we'll have are these Atoms. Hurray - we're paying more for less. :)
  • bill.rookard - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - link

    Well, I do agree on some puzzlement as to what purpose the J1800 serves. The J1800 is a 10w part, the J1900 is a 10w part. Geekbench on the J1800 is about 1000 on the single core (matching the J1900) but only 1600 on the multicore score. That is pretty useless and would be somewhat painful to use in real life.

    And - considering that the J1900 scores much higher on the multi-core loads while operating in the same thermal envelope, they can't even say that it's really and issue of power usage in a mobile situation. So, I can see why they would release the J1900 quad, it turns in similar performance metrics as the 1037u while using half the power which is a worthwhile cause.

    The J1800 seems to be a 'broken quad core' part that they're releasing to keep yields high as they sell them to suckers who don't realize how slow they are.
  • nginx - Friday, January 2, 2015 - link

    There would have been a huge market for these if they had the intuition to slot in a couple of extra SATA ports. It would have made for a super cheap 4 bay NAS with extremely low power consumption. Would have easily been the next gen successor to the 1037u for the DIY NAS builders.

    In its current state, it might only appeal to the HTPC builders if it can do transconding on the fly. For those of us who don't need transcoding on the fly, the Raspberry Pi is the perfect solution.

    A secondary market could be those looking for a PC just to surf the net and do light office work but with a score of 1000, even those tasks could be a handful for the J1800. I have a 7 year old Core2Duo laptop with 1083 score and it feels too sluggish for daily use even with an SSD.
  • flensr - Saturday, December 27, 2014 - link

    the price link to the dell monitor goes to the amazon search for the viewsonic monitor.
  • eanazag - Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - link

    Okay, so are you using UEFI in Windows 7? This obviously affects POST time. Also Windows 8 POST times with UEFI would be the best case scenario in testing. If I care about POST times, I will be running Windows 8.

    I remember that there have been benches done with Anandtech on Windows 8. Why not across the board?

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