The SSD Relapse: Understanding and Choosing the Best SSD
by Anand Lal Shimpi on August 30, 2009 12:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Impact of Idle Garbage Collection
The other option that Indilinx provides its users to improve used performance is something called idle or background garbage collection. The idea is that without any effort on your or the OS’ part your drive, while idle, will defragment itself.
The feature was actually first introduced by Samsung for its RBB based drives, but I’ll get to the issues with Samsung’s drives momentarily.
It either works by looking at the data on the drive and organizing it into a less fragmented state, or by looking at the file system on the drive and attempting to TRIM based on what it finds. Both Indilinx and Samsung have attempted to implement this sort of idle garbage collection and it appears they do it in different ways. While the end result is the same, how they get there determines the usefulness of this feature.
In the first scenario, this is not simply TRIMing the contents of the drive, the drive doesn’t know what to TRIM; it must still keep track of all data. Instead, the drive is re-organizing its data to maximize performance.
The second scenario requires a compatible file system (allegedly NTFS for the Samsung drives) and then the data is actually TRIMed as it would be with the TRIM instruction.
Details are slim, but the idle garbage collection does work in improving performance:
| PCMark Vantage HDD Score | New | "Used" | After TRIM/Idle GC | % of New Perf |
| Corsair P256 (Samsung MLC) | 26607 | 18786 | 24317 | 91% |
Presumably this isn’t without some impact to battery life in a notebook. Furthermore, it’s impossible to tell what impact this has on the lifespan of the drive. If a drive is simply reorganizing data on the fly into a better (higher performing) state, that’s a lot of reads and writes when you’re doing nothing at all. And unfortunately, there’s no way to switch it off.
While Indilinx is following in Samsung's footsteps with enabling idle garbage collection, I believe it's a mistake. Personally, real TRIM support (or at least the wiper tool) is the way to go and it sounds like we’ll be getting it for most if not all of these SSDs in the next couple of months. Idle garbage collection worries me.
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jengeek - Wednesday, September 2, 2009 - link
As of 09-02-09 from Toshiba Direct:80GB = $243
160GB = $473
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gfody - Thursday, September 3, 2009 - link
nice thank you, ordered mine from herescrew Newegg! :D
jengeek - Wednesday, September 2, 2009 - link
Both are G2, in stock and ship the next dayBoth are retail box including the installation kit
Best price I've found
ARoyalF - Sunday, September 13, 2009 - link
Thank you posting that!I was going to wait out that awful price hike over at the egg.
You rock
ElderTech - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - link
It's difficult to imagine the amount of time and effort that went into this article, Anand. Just the clean installs of Win7 took a fair amount of extra effort, let alone the other detailed diagrams and testing involved. From an old technology advocate over many years of working to keep pace with Moore's Law in a variety of research environments, your site provides the most satisfying learning experience of all. A sincere thank you!PS: As for the availability of the G2, it pops in and out of stock at a variety of online retailers, including Newegg, of course, as well as MWave. Both had it available for a short while at $249, Newegg on Friday and MWave today, Monday. However, it's out of stock presently as of midnight, EST 9-1-09 at both, with MWave still at $249 but Newegg going from there to $279 over the weekend and now at an amazing $499! OUCH. Sounds like supply and demand gouging if the price holds when they are next available! There is also some stock available in the distributor channel from small Intel Partners, as I confirmed by calling around the Chicago area. You might give this a try tomorrow. Good luck!
blyndy - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link
You really got performance anxiety because some high-profile people/sites liked your article and linked to it? It's hardly like it got printed in some prestigious science journal and the publishers are waiting on a follow-up.It was just the first time that SDD operation had been detailed in plain english from a reputable website.
Enough of this 'anthology' nonsense, I don't care if it's 1 page or 20, just tell me how some of the new SSDs perform (eg OCZ, Western Digital). You've already detailed how they work so now I want to know which ones do/will support TRIM and some details on the controller. Nothing to get anxious about.
Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link
Indeed I did get performance anxiety after the last one, I even got it after the first X25-M. It's not so much the linkage, but the feedback from all of you guys. I received more positive feedback to the last SSD article than any one prior. More than anything I don't want to let you all down and I want to make sure I live up to everyone's expectations.As far as your interests go, all three manufacturers (Indilinx, Intel and Samsung) have confirmed support for TRIM. When? I'd say all three before December.
Take care,
Anand
cacca - Thursday, September 3, 2009 - link
Dear Anand i really thank you for your SSD articles, the improvements in this area seem tangible.Can I ask you to test Fusion-IO & ioXtreme, i am really curious to see how this other approach performs.
I know that isn't a perfect apple to apple comparison but at least we could compare the per $ performance.
Best regards
Ca
vol7ron - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link
Good article.I have a follow-up question regarding your size suggestion.
In more words you say, "get the size you need," but don't these drives perform that much better in a RAIDed system?
The cost per GB isn't that much more if you're looking at getting a 160GB Intel drive, to get the 2x 80GB instead.
SSDs are more reliable than HDs and you have the benefit of more RAM. 2x 32MB for an SSD in RAID0.
Curious to hear your thoughts,
vol7ron
StraightPipe - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - link
Since RAID cards aren't going to support TRIM commands for a while, I'd stick with a large, single SSD.Anybody ahve any experience running these cards in RAID? I'd love to put some of these in my server, but i'm terrified of lossing data through the complexities of RAID combined with SSD.
I'd love to do a simple RAID1 setup, but it looks like i may be better of waiting too.
In the mean time, these look like a mean machine for an OS disk.